Okay Dokie

[86VickyLX]

Aye, just saw something i never saw before.

( Indeed i do still have poping....)

Anyways, the discovery was this. ( It's cold out )
Took my breather off so i could put my wires back on. anyways. got them on. And I wanted to check my anti freeze so i done that. Needed some so i drained a tad and then put some in.

Anyways. i started her up to cycle the anti freeze.
Well she stalled I was expecting this. Due to it was cold.

Well What i saw next got me to thinking. O yea what i saw was exhaust coming back tru the CFI.

Im really begging to think The exhaust is to limiting for her. I know it's duals. But it has no H. And as Bryan said it really should have an H like his ol vele needed.

To boot, it's stock mufflers. ( Not the one's that came on it.. But well there just called that. )


Does this add up? Or am i just thinking over my head?

The poping is actually backfire im sure now..

backfiring is due to wrong timing, or an incorrect fuel air mixture. Incomplete burnt fuel is heated in the exhaust and combusts.

[DarkKnight]

Ok, new question. How to test and correct a distributer off a tooth.?

[gadget73]

if you can set the ignition timing to where it belongs, and the #1 spot on the cap is connected to the #1 spark plug wire, you're fine. If it was off, you'd either have the spark plug wires moved around on the distributor, or you wouldn't be able to turn the distributor enough to get the timing set properly.

[DarkKnight]

:-? Im just going down the list hehe.

Done 02 sensor egr sensor egr gasket timing chain New plugs 10w30 oil Plug wires disty caps rotory buttons, fuel filters I just dont know where to go from next on this..

[86VickyLX]

:-? Im just going down the list hehe.

Done 02 sensor egr sensor egr gasket timing chain New plugs 10w30 oil Plug wires disty caps rotory buttons, fuel filters I just dont know where to go from next on this..

Do you have the right firing order? Gadget mentioned this before me. Anyway the car will run with some of the wires going to the wrong plug. The car would shake violently and might backfire because of the wrong order. Oh and be sure that all of the wires are all the way on the plugs and cap.

[DarkKnight]

:bashing head aginst wall:

Ok, well im not sure wather to be happy or what...

I just went to the store and back. and had no poping what so ever, and also it didnt stall..

I said wtf It just sorta idled like it should like a nromale car would. didnt rev up or down.

So i said wtf agine. and said well i go up my hill ( rather steep one.) And see if it pops going up or down it.. Well it didnt pop going up it and i went and stoped her to turn her around, didnt stall still the idle was good.

So i said well let's try OD so i put her in that. Well she dosent like going fast quick... in OD.. thats cool though. ( She poped one time when i tried to go fast from a dead stop but eh.. who cares about that hehe. ) Went and started down the hill and still no poping. and got to my driveway stoped didnt stall...


The only thing i done yesterday was this.

Me and Nate mang where talking and he was wondering where my 10 btdc wound up at when the car ran right. So I went out and checked it for him, and when i went to set it back i decided to put it at 12 instead of 10 or well very close to 12 hehe.



So wactha mang's think?

Got any suggestions for a test?


( Sorry if some of that sounds like rambling... kinda got side tracked via two woman yelling at one another)

[86VickyLX]

Ok, well im not sure wather to be happy or what...

I just went to the store and back. and had no poping what so ever, and also it didnt stall..

I said wtf It just sorta idled like it should like a nromale car would. didnt rev up or down.

So i said wtf agine. and said well i go up my hill ( rather steep one.) And see if it pops going up or down it.. Well it didnt pop going up it and i went and stoped her to turn her around, didnt stall still the idle was good.

So i said well let's try OD so i put her in that. Well she dosent like going fast quick... in OD.. thats cool though. ( She poped one time when i tried to go fast from a dead stop but eh.. who cares about that hehe. ) Went and started down the hill and still no poping. and got to my driveway stoped didnt stall...


The only thing i done yesterday was this.

Me and Nate mang where talking and he was wondering where my 10 btdc wound up at when the car ran right. So I went out and checked it for him, and when i went to set it back i decided to put it at 12 instead of 10 or well very close to 12 hehe.



So wactha mang's think?

Got any suggestions for a test?


( Sorry if some of that sounds like rambling... kinda got side tracked via two woman yelling at one another)

sounds good to me, I know it shouldn't pop at all, but if it idles well, and it's not shaking, or hesitating, then don't touch it! Looks like you found where the engine likes to run at good job!

[DarkKnight]

Humm, just went and talked with The Scott Mang ;D hehe. And he was reminding me about the fuel pump relay and the fuel pump relay switch. More so on the switch.

hehe, He asked "does the car feel like it runs out of fuel then pops and comes back to life and so on and so forth?"

And that is exzactly what it does...

So ima see if Napa is gonna be open today. and buy that connector.

Would any of you mang's know how to change out the fuel pump relay connector? Im thinking you cut wires then splice them back together ^_^ but that dosent sound like a clean circuit at all...

O yea that poping returned agine just a mina go when i done the same drive...

[86VickyLX]

Would any of you mang's know how to change out the fuel pump relay connector? Im thinking you cut wires then splice them back together ^_^ but that dosent sound like a clean circuit at all...

Talk to scott mang :p

I'm pretty sure that's how you would change out the connector. Splice and connect. If you have a soldering iron and some solder you can make a lot cleaner.

Or you could do those wire connectors that come in different colors and when they are all in then you can wrap them with electrical tape. I don't know the gauge of wire the fuel pump relay uses so I couldn't tell you which colored connector to use.
Good luck

[DarkKnight]

hehe good idea, i think i got some. Never thought about the tape dill before though. Thats probley what my problem was with my pete mang mod hehe not tape.

O yea, connector will be here tomarow. Didnt have enuff to buy the relay it's self this weak. put to much money in the bank and it' s not even credited yet...



Butt Connectors Shrink tube and crimp tool hehe. Im putting this there cause thats what i will need to put the new one on

[86VickyLX]

Butt Connectors Shrink tube and crimp tool hehe. Im putting this there cause thats what i will need to put the new one on

It's what I use on all my connections I redo.

[gadget73]

if you can solder, solder them and put shrink tube over it. Failing that, crimp connectors and shrink tube, crimps and liquid tape (this is really awesome shit by the way), or crimps and regular tape.

[DarkKnight]

Cool deal on the liquid tape thing mang never even herd of it.

Went up to napa right before i ate lunch, And well the little turd in there told me wrong. It wasent going to be in today, But tomarow... Ugha.. They owe me some gas money now...

[DarkKnight]

Just went and looked at my connector and noticeced i actualy have two connectors right there ^_^

Do they both need to be replaced or just one. Or Well which one would need replacing?

[85crownHPP]

one is for the fuel pump, the other is for the ECM... I guess either could cause those symptoms???

Also - do you still have the exhaust heat valve flapper? Its the thing on the end of the driver side exhaust manifold... if the flapper is broken and getting stuck closed (if its even possible for it to close that far) it could be clogging up your exhaust.
Its supposed to only work when you warm up from a cold start, controlled by the thermal vacuum switch on the rear corner of the intake manifold.

Do you have the right firing order? Anyway the car will run with some of the wires going to the wrong plug. The car would shake violently and might backfire because of the wrong order.

This would not exhibit an intermittant problem... his syptoms come and go altogether. Incorrect firing order would not behave that way...