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    Wtf?!

    OK so i finally went to install my nice shiny painted frame/crossmember support bars today...the first one went up no problem...however the drivers side has an issue with the emissions pipe coming from the cat....

    has anyone had this issue? i tried loosening clamps and bolts to move it around and even tried to bend it a little with no luck... and no getting rid of that system is not in my agenda as of right now.... any ideas??

    PIX!!






    i hope from the pictures you can see what im talking about..
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    -Phil

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    +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

    +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed
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    #2
    Just mash it out of the way with the support and bolt it all up. Oh and do you have a tranny cooler? If so can you please send me a picture of where it taps into the radiator?
    ~David~

    My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
    My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

    Originally posted by ootdega
    My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

    Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
    But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

    Originally posted by gadget73
    my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.



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      #3
      haha is that what you had to do with yours? im not so sure thatll work its very rigid...but i can try.

      and yes i do, after i get back from class i'll take some pictures and send them to you!
      -Phil

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      +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

      +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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        #4
        Originally posted by Brown_Muscle View Post
        haha is that what you had to do with yours? im not so sure thatll work its very rigid...but i can try.

        and yes i do, after i get back from class i'll take some pictures and send them to you!
        No. I had no issues with clearance whatsoever. But I would bolt up one end of the bar and try and push the bar into position and then bolt the other end. Keyword "try" as the injection pipe may be very ridged like you mentioned.

        And awesome. I am trying to see how the bends are on the stock cooler stuff coming out of the radiator allowing the cooler to be put in line with everything.
        ~David~

        My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
        My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

        Originally posted by ootdega
        My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

        Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
        But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

        Originally posted by gadget73
        my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.



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          #5
          email sent...

          so no ideas guys? What would happen if i were to remove this one side and clog up the pipe? would the system still run off the other cat?
          -Phil

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          +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

          +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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            #6
            It'll run but I don't know how even it will be since one bank of cylinders exhaust flow will be without obstruction while the other has a big ol' converter on it.
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            - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

            - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

            - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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              #7
              BFH... smack the crossover pipe until it is bent out of the way.

              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

              Originally posted by gadget73
              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

              Originally posted by dmccaig
              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                #8
                or use a jack with board on it to lift the pipe in that area instead of attempting to hit with hammer since it would be difficult getting a good swing


                Jim and Angela 4lyfe:am:

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                  #9
                  good ideas, only problem is having it break right off the cat, big weak spot there... if there was a way to secure it to the exhaust pipe itself to keep it from breaking that might work..
                  hmmm a C clamp MIGHT work..
                  -Phil

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                  +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

                  +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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                    #10
                    I know you said you don't want to, but remove the system unless you have to have it there for visual inspection. It's useless, and pretty damned easy to remove.

                    Cut the pipes going to the cats, pinch the pipes closed and weld them so the cats don't leak, and remove all the piping trash, including the diverter valve. Then, remove the pipes going to the backs of the heads, cut the little plate where they attach off from the pipe, flip it over and bolt it back into place so it doesn't leak out the heads.

                    If you're really ambitious you can remove the smog pump and put a shorter belt on to run the air conditioning. For a 5.0 it's a 560k6, but I dunno if that's the same for a 5.8.

                    Trust me, you'll love the extra access you get with the shit out of the way on that side of the engine.
                    Last edited by 91waggin; 10-13-2010, 01:53 AM.
                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    There is nothing more permanent than a temporary fix.
                    91 Mercury CP, Lopo 302, AOD, 3.08LSD. 3g upgrade, Moog wagon coils up front, cc819s in the back. KYB GR-2 police shocks. Energy suspension control arm bushings. Smog deleted.
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                      #11
                      heat it up with a torch and bend it out of your way

                      1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
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                      please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                        #12
                        Or wait to put the bars on until you have a new system. The car has survived almost 30 years without them, waiting a little longer isn't going to hurt anything.
                        Pebbles-1968 Ford F250
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                          #13
                          John= teh true

                          I do need them for NJ inspection i think....perhaps they wont care as long as they see cats?! hmmm....

                          A: I don't have a torch other than propane lol
                          B: I don't have a welder XD

                          however these are good suggestions and opens me to new considerations...thanks guys!
                          -Phil

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                          +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

                          +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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                            #14
                            I had the same problem, and just didn't put them on, lol.
                            Where the smog tube joins the converter is a very weak point... be careful whatever you do.
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                              #15
                              Not sure which set of bars you have, but some have a little kick to them, and some are straight. I suspect the kicked ones are to clear something. Dunno, they came on my car and cleared the factory air pump bs. I haven't had that for years though, and nobody has ever said anything about it when I had it inspected.
                              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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                              Originally posted by phayzer5
                              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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