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    All I can do is shrug at this point.







    The project to put my mother in the 86 MGM has stalled.

    In the meantime, my aunt (my mother's sister) informed me that her neighbour was getting ready to sell his 2005 Focus ZX4 SES. It is a well-optioned car, Duratec 2.0, stick, 113k km. It is in decent condition but does require minor work to return to the road. At $500, it was a no-brainer. $500, especially Canadian, doesn't buy anything right now, particularly not anything with a catalytic converter still on it, so I moved quickly on this.

    As my mom can drive stick, this is the new car for her. If it turns out that stick is not for her after giving it a try for a while, I have a list of people now who want this car if she passes it up, so no issues there.

    The current needs list is:
    • A brake line repair which may turn into replacing most of the car's lines. It has poly-coated lines but only to a point in each wheel well, which is of course where the rust is worst.
    • Rear brake inspection and probably replacement of shoes, wheel cylinders and hardware, since I will be in there anyway and gaining access is really stupid on these cars (the drum is the wheel hub).
    • Replacement of the flex pipe which is an integral component of the exhaust manifold and catalytic converter (all one piece). I will pay a shop to do this.
    • Tires: I have a set of winters that will work on it, but am working on getting wheels that will fit the tires and this vehicle.
    • Corrosion mitigation: probably get it oil sprayed. The body probably does not require any attention to pass a safety but if it does, it's minor.
    • Climate control repair: the cable transmission system to change the blend doors is broken which is common and has a more serious root cause. I've already obtained the cables to make it work again and will mitigate the root cause in the process.
    • Optional but a good idea: transmission output shaft seals
    • Engine oil and trans oil changes
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    Sounds like a smart purchase
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    Gotta agree with that, especially being a manual focus and not one of those troubleprone dual clutch "automatics".

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    Quote Originally Posted by GM_Guy View Post
    Gotta agree with that, especially being a manual focus and not one of those troubleprone dual clutch "automatics".
    I think that generation of Focus was a conventional automatic. I believe the DCT troublemaker came along in 2012 with that new generation of Focus.

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    just make sure you get the old cat back so you can get some cash from it unless they are going to knock off an appropriate amount of money for letting the shop keep it.

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    Looks like a Focus, probably sounds and feels like a Focus, but what the shit is a ZX4 SES? Granted the trim levels in europe aren't the simplest, but those are completely different for some reason, even though its the same damn cars over here.

    Is the trunk a sedan trunk or more like a hatch (sportback to be correct) on this one? Focus sedans are pretty rare here.
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    Indeed, the autos in these years were not known for being super troublesome. I've heard of some failing but not in any way like the PowerShift disaster.

    The factory cat is being rebuilt with a new flex pipe, the car will not be de-catted. If the shop de-cats it (even to hand the cat to me afterwards), I will bring the full force of the government down on them which I understand to be an expensive and lengthy process to recover from. If it's street-driven and exists in my life, it has cats.

    ZX4 I believe is the body, in this case the sedan. Wagons are ZTW, I believe the 5-door hatch is a ZX5 and 3-door hatch is a ZX3. No clue where Z comes from but that's what they're called. SES is the trim level and I understand SES to be on the higher end of the non-performance-oriented stuff. e.g. there is an appearance package that gives them a body kit, this car does not have that. It also has the lesser engine and trans (stick is inherently incompatible with the idea of being fully loaded on this continent), but has everything else imaginable.

    It is a traditional sedan with a proper trunk. The rear seats can fold down for trunk access through into the passenger area.

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    I thought you meant that the whole assembly was one thing and you had to replace it with new, hence the cat currently on the car no longer being on the car. So the flex pipe is replaceable then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    I thought you meant that the whole assembly was one thing and you had to replace it with new, hence the cat currently on the car no longer being on the car. So the flex pipe is replaceable then?
    Not in any traditional sense, no...the flex pipe is integral with the manifold and cat, but someone who knows what they're doing could cut it out and weld a new one in. The flex is after the cat and joins to the pipe that goes to the downstream cat. The entire assembly of manifold, cat, and flex are at the rear of the engine, compartmentalized by the subframe and firewall. A shop has guesstimated it as a $350 job including parts but that was without seeing the car. The guy was familiar with the setup on these and has done them before though.

    I would say that there is not enough pipe in between the cat and the flex to do anything with, but the shop seems to feel they can do it easily, so I'll let them do whatever they wanna do.

    The aftermarket has solved this problem by selling an arrangement that puts a flange on the flex, making it serviceable separately from the cat, but you need the matching manifold-cat assembly and the cat on this car is fine.

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    I like these little first gen Focuses (Foci?). Never worked on one but drove one in drivers ed when they were brand new. I bet an SES manual is unusual. The drivers ed program in the county still has these cars, so they can't be that bad if they survived twenty years of first time drivers.
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    friend of mine has a 2010 that he bought new. Finally had to put a clutch in it a month ago at 180k. He told me its the only money he's put into the car outside of standard maintenance.

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