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    Newly acquired today, thanks to friends notifying me that they saw it pop up in a local Facebook group, here is a 1983 Town Car Signature which I've picked up to strip some parts from. Once I'm done with it, it will either be resold to someone who will derby it, or sent to the crusher. The P.O. bought it because it had a new crate 302 in it and he wanted that engine and trans for a project car. Between the missing powertrain and the condition of the body, it will make absolutely no sense to try to put this back on the road.

    It was a factory carb 302 car in Canadian spec, with a non-feedback Motorcraft 2150. It is optioned slightly below my '84, with respect to the seats, wheels, and lack of power trunk pulldown. It does have auto dimming high beams and autolamps, premium sound, keyless entry, illuminated entry.

    My time with this car is expected to be fairly short. I currently plan to pull the seats (for the wagon), the radio (to keep for reasons), the cluster (as the clock in mine is seized), probably the door switch panels as they're in good shape (though 83 is different on the driver door). The bumpers (aluminum) are in fair condition but I don't need them. I do need some work done to my trunklid (rust spots and rusty bottom lip), and am undecided if I'd rather fix my original or just use this one. There will be various other little bits I harvest as well, such as the chime, which works perfectly. The tail lights and reflector panel are pristine. It has a 2.73 rear end, so there's nothing good happening back there. It does have pretty much brand new front rotors, so those I plan to take. It also has KYB Excel-G shocks, which if they appear to work at all, I will take as well.

    This car also has a very good condition absolutely massive radiator (the thickest Panther rad I've ever seen), and a gas tank that looks substantially newer than the car. I'll likely be keeping these for other uses. It is a factory dual exhaust car and has the elusive driver side hangers, as well.

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    Below photos are from today, minus engine:





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    If you're pulling the door panel, any chance you can get me the body-side connector plug for the keyless door entry? I have an 82 or 83 piece on my 86 and it should be the same as what that car has. On my long list of shit to do was actually install the keyless module but I haven't gotten around to it. I know I do not have the mating connector though.

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    Green exterior with blue interior? There’s a combo.


    I’d be interested in the side view mirror assemblies if they’re power and you’re not wanting to keep them.

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    How does the headlight trim/grille surround chrome look? Door handles? Is the rear reflector pristine enough to bother boxing up to ship south?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    If you're pulling the door panel, any chance you can get me the body-side connector plug for the keyless door entry? I have an 82 or 83 piece on my 86 and it should be the same as what that car has. On my long list of shit to do was actually install the keyless module but I haven't gotten around to it. I know I do not have the mating connector though.
    That shouldn't be an issue. I can add it to your soon-to-be-a-pallet of goodies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kodachrome Wolf View Post
    Green exterior with blue interior? There’s a combo.


    I’d be interested in the side view mirror assemblies if they’re power and you’re not wanting to keep them.
    Honestly, the colours seem kind of jarring together at first, but after a little time to adjust to it, it works. It's very distinctly "of its time", and these sorts of colour schemes on cars disappeared right around this time (early-mid 80s), making sort of a brief reappearance in the 90s, and then nothing like it ever since.

    I don't know if I like it or not, but I find both the interior and exterior colours to be tasteful. They work together in an odd way.

    The mirrors are power, and they work. The thermometer is screwed though. I would have kept them for myself, but technically have no need for them.

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    How does the headlight trim/grille surround chrome look? Door handles? Is the rear reflector pristine enough to bother boxing up to ship south?
    I'll have to take a closer look at the headlight surrounds and door handles. The grille itself has its finish flaking, and the grille surround has that "spotty" thing happening to it that I don't know the cause of, but affects all of these sorts of pieces eventually.

    The reflector panel is very good and probably worth shipping down, but I may have plans for it. Regardless, that means it won't be crushed with the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kishy View Post
    The mirrors are power, and they work. The thermometer is screwed though. I would have kept them for myself, but technically have no need for them.
    Damn. That's what I was kinda interested in, but no sense in going through all that work to get them off with the thermometer the fritz. I guess I'll keep an eye out for a car down here. Thanks though.

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    no requests from the car. Just wanted to comment that it has the typical seat "lean" like other early 80s panthers (I think your Town Car did that too?).

    Either way, pretty neat to see one still up there. Love the patch job on the quarters. Nice parts car.
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    The seats look quite nice material wise. I now notice the lean mentioned above...Is that a fatigue issue or a broken weld/component issue?
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    Interior looks dark green to me. Iíve seen a few others with this combo.

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    With respect to the fabric colour, I do think it's a sort of greenish blue, but not a traditional "dark green"...though it's hard to be sure. The seats are better than what's in my wagon so even if only as a temporary step, they'll be useful there.

    With respect to the seat lean: yes, my 84 had this, and I identified what caused it: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...l=1#post827518





    The circular tube runs left-right inside the seat and forms the structure that prevents the seat back from flexing diagonally. Tube breaks, seat flops, as only the left side hinge locks with the recline mechanism.

    The metal frame of my wagon seats is still good, so I will just do to these seats what I did to my 84 seats. Seat frames with this defect can absolutely be fixed by someone who can weld in a reinforcement that functions the same way as the original design. Using larger diameter and thicker walled tubing would probably be wise.

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    The UV rays from the sun always fade that dark blue material to a greenish blue. I've had 2 box panthers, plus one parts car, with dark blue seats faded to that greenish blue color. Makes me wonder if the top of this '83 was originally a blue color. It would be interesting to see the color of the top underneath some trim or somewhere where the sun don't shine.
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    Funny my 89 MGM had the seat lean but the 89 LTC was perfect.

    The car above is Aquamarine Moondust with an Aegean Green Roof and dark green interior. In 1983 the Sig Series could be had with the dark green cloth or leather.

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    Dark green? I guess I see it. Maybe it's just the way the pictures display on my end. Honestly, dark green would make more sense.
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    I will concede that a lot of the interior is dark green, but some items are absolutely blue, and I suspect it's an unusual two-tone sort of thing. The dash pad is blue, as is the parcel shelf (flat surface behind rear seat). The seats are somewhere on a spectrum between green and blue, greener than "normal blue", but bluer than surrounding green parts of the interior. When I can get the wagon and this to be in the same place as each other, that will reveal how far off the seat fabric will be.

    This car has had serious mouse nest issues and absolutely reeks inside, but fortunately the seats seem to have fared pretty well and don't stink (at least not against the background stench).

    Started pulling it apart (far from done though). Posted the roller for sale on a demo derby page. Got some detail shots of things.

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    I think those sealed beams are not so sealed anymore.

    Corner lenses look pretty good. Getting difficult to find decent ones of those.

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    Some commentary, as I didn't think to make last night:

    I found the one complete, and one broken missing front turn signal lenses (note both front turn signals have homemade lenses glued on) in the trunk. Lucky break. The one is in very good condition and the other is the inner optics part without the outer lens...could be useful to someone with a very specific type of broken lens. I'll add it to my collection of crap. If it turns out I have good spares already (and I may), these will be available to pre-existing GMN members. I am well aware of how hard they are to come by in even unusable condition.

    The tail light lenses are in very good condition, the plastic chrome is in poor condition, the lenses are separating but that's easy to fix.

    The reflector panel is not in show car condition but is very good. After further reflection, I think I already have two of those in my garage, so I'm fairly sure I have one to spare. I'd certainly prefer it to be my worst condition one that goes, but whatever. I am not particularly motivated by money, moreso by getting parts into the hands of those who need them, without losing money to do so. The entire car cost me $270 Canadian, I am getting a decent number of parts out of it, and it's looking like I'll successfully sell the roller for $300 all day long, so at the end of the day it's likely to make me money, if anything.

    I am planning to pull the rear glass. I don't think it is a particularly valuable piece, but it is the larger window than my 84 has, which might better facilitate a vinyl roof delete. I believe there is an even bigger one yet (in terms of defroster grid/visible area) for super base model late year cars, but this one is effectively free. Off the top of my head I think this car even has usable dew wipes, so I may take those too. That stuff has no value to someone who wants to derby it. The side aluminum pieces as well.

    Something I've noticed before, 84 seems to have been the first year that the climate control was called Automatic, and gained the auto fan speed control, but Lincolns 80-83 did have the thermal blower lockout, as well as the vacuum ATC thing, but with a standard manual fan switch. This car had the blend door servo plugged with a golf tee, and the ATC vacuum valve is plugged with dust, so it's fair to say it leaked/otherwise didn't work. I'm keeping the parts as I want to one day figure out why those things stop working and come up with a refurb plan people can use to restore their functionality. Can't be that hard.

    The keyless entry module is massive. I believe it's several times larger than that in my 84, IIRC. The module works correctly and has its code printed on it directly. There is no sticker on the trunk hinge. I believe it's a dealer install as the mounting tabs on the module are broken and the hinge sticker thing. If I am right in remembering that the newer module is much smaller, there is likely no value in pulling this behemoth...but I figured I'd mention that it does work. Lock/unlock 1/unlock all/pop trunk/program a second code.

    The glovebox cover is good (as we know, they shrink and deform). However, the glovebox was home to a mouse nest and is extremely nasty. If anyone is hurting for a glovebox in this colour, it would be a good outer cover, but the inside is hopeless. I'm not sure they can be successfully separated without ruining them. Glovebox has a replacement latch installed, identical to that on gen1 Neons (if nobody has connected those dots before...). It is therefore not keyed at all, nevermind to the car.

    Original Lincoln keys are in hand, so if someone wants a matching set of locks and keys (minus glovebox), that's an option.

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    if its dealer install, any chance that the harness from the door to the keyless will come out without stupid amounts of effort?

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    The keyless module looks from your picture to be the same size as mine. Do you have another picture of the top/connector side?

    Also, those wheel covers look like they're from a 70s Continental. Were they an option still in the early 80s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    if its dealer install, any chance that the harness from the door to the keyless will come out without stupid amounts of effort?
    It is well integrated into the dash/body harness, so no, the whole thing can't just be plucked out unfortunately. Maybe it is factory installation. Certainly not spending the money on a Marti report for this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutrova View Post
    The keyless module looks from your picture to be the same size as mine. Do you have another picture of the top/connector side?

    Also, those wheel covers look like they're from a 70s Continental. Were they an option still in the early 80s?
    I do not have an additional photo of the module handy, but will pull the module and do it then.

    I am unsure of the origins of these wheel covers, but I think I've seen them on a Panther platform Lincoln before.



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    Pulled the fuel tank. It and its straps are newer Spectra Premium parts which have been nicely undercoated since installation, and are like-new. Tank and filler neck have been coated in spider egg sacs and also mud structures built by wasps to house their larvae. The sending unit in this tank is, of course, a somewhat rare part among our mass produced vehicles...this is a factory carb car, so this tank only has the hole on the front side, and the 2" sender has both the float and the pickup tube on it. As I have another car of the same setup, I'm pleased to have this part at my disposal now.

    Pulled the rear bumper (it's good enough to hang onto), trunklid (undecided, but it may be in better shape than mine re: the bottom edge lip), tail pipes (newer and usable), tailpipe hangers (factory dual exhaust car)
    Car has cargo coils in the back, but not really thinking of taking these. None of my cars need rear springs now.

    Rear shocks are old and crusty, fronts are almost-new looking KYB Excel-G. Was tempted by the KYBs until I realized it was just 2 and not 4. Might just let the fronts go with the car.

    Pulled various little things. No comprehensive list at the moment. The end is near for this one, though.















    Frame is too far gone for derby. They want factory fresh minty cars, this is far from it.

    Tried to get the muffler hangers, didn't have a good time trying. Bolts don't want to turn and tool clearance is bad.

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    might be worth saving the power antenna if its not toast. The masts on the early ones were different.

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