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    I believe that's how collector status in MI works, so long as you're trying to use license plates with the same year as the car. When I sold my old Plymouth, I let those plates go with it along with the documentation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sly View Post
    My 93 is a "classic" and I could get the associated plates, but it's also my daily and they frown on that kind of use with classic/antique plates. 25 years or more in Texas.
    Classic plates and Antique plates are two different things in Texas. Classic plates are suitable for a daily, cost the same as regular plates, and there are no particular restrictions on the use of the vehicle. Nobody will frown on you using those. You do need to submit an application to be issued the plates, and it takes a few weeks for them to come in the mail if you request new ones instead of using plates from the year of manufacture. It's been a while since I've applied for YOM plates, but I sort of remember that involved some sort of inspection that the plates were suitable for use. (Side note: I have never applied for YOM plates on anything newer than 1974, so I'm not sure whether you can do it with plates designed to stay on the car more than one year).

    Antique plates are cheaper, last up to 5 years (fees are prorated; they all expire on the same day), and exempt you from annual inspections. I kinda remember you don't need a front plate, either, but don't hold me to that. With the antique plates, you are supposed to be using the vehicle only for parades, shows, and other things of that nature, so dailying the car would put you at risk for getting pulled over.

    25 years or older for either plate, and they also differentiate between cars and trucks on the state-issued ones.

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    "Classic" cars are a concept that vary enough between jurisdictions that we could sort of say they don't really exist at all.

    "Wow, that's a classic" is a remark that generally has nothing to do with the car's insurance or license plate/registration status.
    Classic car insurance can be applied to vehicles that nobody would think to make the above remark about.
    Classic/historical/collector car license plates carry with them a variety of restrictions and benefits, again depending on jurisdiction.

    All of my vehicles are eligible for the special license plates, but don't have them because of the restrictions those plates carry with them. Would I get caught breaking the rules? Unlikely. But do I want the headache? Definitely not.
    All of my vehicles, and me as the driver, are eligible for classic car insurance. The restrictions on this are relatively compatible with how I use my cars most of the time, and I've given it a lot of consideration, but I'm still on the fence about it. Don't want a claim being denied and policy cancelled because I decided to drive my car to work one day instead of the company vehicle.

    I'm not sure how Hagerty would feel about me strapping a paddle boat to the roof of my "classic", but I feel like they might frown upon that. OTOH, if they don't receive a claim for a vinyl top and roof paint due to some mysterious thing falling on the car when I wasn't there to see what happened, is it really an issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonwagon View Post
    Classic plates and Antique plates are two different things in Texas. Classic plates are suitable for a daily, cost the same as regular plates, and there are no particular restrictions on the use of the vehicle. Nobody will frown on you using those. You do need to submit an application to be issued the plates, and it takes a few weeks for them to come in the mail if you request new ones instead of using plates from the year of manufacture. It's been a while since I've applied for YOM plates, but I sort of remember that involved some sort of inspection that the plates were suitable for use. (Side note: I have never applied for YOM plates on anything newer than 1974, so I'm not sure whether you can do it with plates designed to stay on the car more than one year).

    Antique plates are cheaper, last up to 5 years (fees are prorated; they all expire on the same day), and exempt you from annual inspections. I kinda remember you don't need a front plate, either, but don't hold me to that. With the antique plates, you are supposed to be using the vehicle only for parades, shows, and other things of that nature, so dailying the car would put you at risk for getting pulled over.

    25 years or older for either plate, and they also differentiate between cars and trucks on the state-issued ones.
    You are correct. There is still a limit to mileage on Classic plates so using it as a true daily could easily exceed the limit. Also, if you read my further comments, I did differentiate that more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sly View Post
    You are correct. There is still a limit to mileage on Classic plates so using it as a true daily could easily exceed the limit. Also, if you read my further comments, I did differentiate that more.
    The Classic plates themselves do not have any mileage restriction. It's just a different piece of metal to attach to your bumpers. If you get classic insurance, then the insurer might (and usually does) impose limits, but that has nothing to do with the plates. If you are aware of a limitation, please let me know where that is documented so I can stay compliant.

    Section 504.501 is for classic plates, and 504.502 is for antique. https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/D...htm/TN.504.htm

    Or see the application forms. Classic plates have only one qualification--the vehicle must be at least 25 years old. Antique plates have a much more robust certification, limiting the use and banning it from use for daily transportation.

    https://www.txdmv.gov/sites/default/...es/VTR-850.pdf
    https://www.txdmv.gov/sites/default/...les/VTR-54.pdf

    FWIW, my Country Squire is eligible for Classic plates, but still wears the generic ones. I do have other vehicles with Classic plates or Antique plates going back more than 20 years. I have been pulled over in a vehicle registered with Antique plates on the way to a parade (not ticketed, because I happened to have a photocopy of the relevant section of the law in the car), but so far no incidents with Classic plates.

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    Yeah all my rides have a MI Historical plates. Nominal $35 registration fee and they don't expire for 10 years. Drive mine all over for 6 years and have never got pulled over. Law says parades, car shows....if I get pulled over, I am on my way to a car show (my other 4 cars at home). Honestly, what is the legal definition of a "car show" or parade?
    In the month of August they give you a full month to drive it anywhere, legally.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonwagon View Post
    The Classic plates themselves do not have any mileage restriction. It's just a different piece of metal to attach to your bumpers. If you get classic insurance, then the insurer might (and usually does) impose limits, but that has nothing to do with the plates. If you are aware of a limitation, please let me know where that is documented so I can stay compliant.

    Section 504.501 is for classic plates, and 504.502 is for antique. https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/D...htm/TN.504.htm

    Or see the application forms. Classic plates have only one qualification--the vehicle must be at least 25 years old. Antique plates have a much more robust certification, limiting the use and banning it from use for daily transportation.

    https://www.txdmv.gov/sites/default/...es/VTR-850.pdf
    https://www.txdmv.gov/sites/default/...les/VTR-54.pdf

    FWIW, my Country Squire is eligible for Classic plates, but still wears the generic ones. I do have other vehicles with Classic plates or Antique plates going back more than 20 years. I have been pulled over in a vehicle registered with Antique plates on the way to a parade (not ticketed, because I happened to have a photocopy of the relevant section of the law in the car), but so far no incidents with Classic plates.
    Then that's changed since I had my classic plates. Looks like it's just a vanity plate now for 25 year or older vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand1 View Post
    Yeah all my rides have a MI Historical plates. Nominal $35 registration fee and they don't expire for 10 years. Drive mine all over for 6 years and have never got pulled over. Law says parades, car shows....if I get pulled over, I am on my way to a car show (my other 4 cars at home). Honestly, what is the legal definition of a "car show" or parade?
    In the month of August they give you a full month to drive it anywhere, legally.
    I think it's one of those things they put in their pocket to use against you if they need to. When I got pulled over in my Fury, the cop made mention of it and how he was going to let me off. I don't like the idea of giving roadside tax men any more ammunition to use against me.
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