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    Oh hey, a thread.

    Last night, I was a party to some Woodward cruising in a sort of mismatched group of cars: C6 Z06, Suzuki Alto Works, alternately my 84 Town Car or a Volvo 240 wagon, and a Family Truckster replica.



    I was told we'd be going back today and there was also a likelihood that the Family Truckster would make another appearance, so I decided to wake up my wagon and bring that. The car is in driveable condition but does have a short to-do list, some of which isn't really minor/low impact.

    Went through a basic health check:
    • Engine oil full and healthy looking. Is about 1000km over on the change interval, but as I noted in a recent reply above, leaks had me replace a significant amount, and it's also synthetic, so I'm just going to keep an eye on it and run it for a while.
    • Coolant is nearly full and healthy looking. I do believe this leaks from a water pump bolt and was prepared to quickly pull it out, put sealant on it then slap it back in, but I couldn't identify for sure which it was, and the coolant level was full enough to make that a messy proposition.
    • ATF checked when not running and cold: looks great, and eyeballs to about the right place on the stick (very high) for when engine is not running. Will recheck hot at some point. The o-rings at the radiator trans cooler fittings leak enough to make a mess but not lose a lot of volume of fluid.
    • Brake pedal feels about right, tires look great, all body electrics working properly. I currently have one good Group 65 battery, which has been in the Lincoln (though it originated in this car), so I took that back for this car.
    • I put a new air filter in it, as the old one was looking kinda gross.




    It started effortlessly. Took it for a spin and found no issues. Fluid levels should be monitored but otherwise the car is back in the rotation for a while I think. Will try to fix a few things before RADwood/Concours d'Lemons but I wouldn't feel awful just rolling in with it as it is now.

    Some months ago, I picked up a 1982 upper-trim LTD grille. I put that on the wagon. I like aspects of both grilles and can't really pick which one I prefer. The Mercury bumper doesn't match but it seems like the earlier grille maybe works better with it.







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    ...anyway. We didn't end up going to Woodward tonight, but this car is now mobile again, and the Lincoln may be on a little hiatus.

    I did try to get eyes on the problem with the fuel filler neck. When the tank is half full or more, right turns will cause a smell of fuel in and around the car, and looking in the fuel door will reveal wetness below the cap. The seal on the cap looks good, so I figured maybe a rust pinhole on the filler neck. I pulled the filler neck out as far as is possible without loosening the tank straps, but found no evidence of a hole, only where the fuel has washed away the undercoating I had put on it before. It sure looks like it has to be the fuel cap allowing the leak to happen.

    I went through my stash of stuff and found a different cap, albeit not any better looking, and we'll try that for a bit. I'll see about getting a new one.




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    I like da Ford grille with the chrome split in the center.

    By the way, would you happen to have a nice grommet for the coolant overflow tank? The one I need is for the coolant, I guess I added some to my car and then never put it back on. Can't find it now and it looks silly without one. Figure when we do the meet up we can swap cash for parts.

    That other wagon with it's weird wood trim- It's like someone got crazy with the JC Whitney catalog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekTheGreat View Post
    I like da Ford grille with the chrome split in the center.

    By the way, would you happen to have a nice grommet for the coolant overflow tank? The one I need is for the coolant, I guess I added some to my car and then never put it back on. Can't find it now and it looks silly without one. Figure when we do the meet up we can swap cash for parts.

    That other wagon with it's weird wood trim- It's like someone got crazy with the JC Whitney catalog.
    I think the 82 (brighter) grille is growing on me as the better one as well.

    I don't have one of the plugs for the overflow tank. I never bother with the stupid overflow tank on these, it's impossible to keep coolant in these engines designed by absolute morons. I fill the rad and call it good, then repeat a while later.

    Are you somehow unfamiliar with the Family Truckster? The wagon pictured is a clone of a very famous movie car. The movie car in question was designed by George Barris, an expert in the field. It is a caricature of the traditional American family car. https://www.hagerty.com/media/car-pr...ily-truckster/

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    +1, thought everyone over 30 knew what The Family Truckster is. That emoji reaction is actually kind of the point of it.
    Off topic, I happen to have at least 3 overflow/washer tanks. Not sure if any of them live at my place but I can certainly part with a grommet/plug thing if I remember. You can have a whole tank, but not likely to be in as good of shape as what you have, Derek.
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    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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    82 grille is where it's at!
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    I like how to 82 grille looks. Fits better with what you have going on.

    Any more pictures of the family truckster? I understand you did not get to see it again the next day..maybe you has some more from the first showing?
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    Hmm, I've never seen that movie. Was never really a fan of Chevrolet Chase. I didn't mind him in Nothing But Trouble or Planes, Trains and Automobiles though. Definitely an ugly f'n car.

    @ Vic- Yes, please. Only need the grommet thing. And Kishy is right, can't seem to keep coolant in the damn thing. But usually I fill top it off once a season and then it's good. Overflow tank allows me to keep an eye on it without having to pop the cap off. (Although usually I do anyway because I'm OCD..)
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    Chase in PT&A? I believe it was Steve Martin and John Candy but I have no recollection of Chase in it. More like "Caddyshack" or something else.
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    Candy and Martin in T,P,&A.

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    When I was a freshman in college I heard Martin Sheen was speaking on campus. And I thought to myself, "Martin Sheen? I love the Three Amigos."

    Turns out I was thinking of Martin Short.

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    Ah, yes it was Steve Martin. I mix up those two like I mix up 80's hair bands when trying to guess which one is on the radio. I usually mix up Scorpions/Motley Crue/Def Leopard/Pantera/Mega Deth. Why? Well, as Al Pacino said in Scent of a Woman, "Because it isn't important for me to get it right."
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    I'd say its because they're all terrible and not worth the mental bandwidth to be able to identify.

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    LoL, that works too.
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    I don't know, I thought Martin has been pretty good over the years. I liked The Jerk.

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    I was referring to the hair bands honestly.

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    Another vote for the 82 grill from me. I put one of those on my Vic towards it's EOL.

    Also, that model is awesome! Did you paint it yourself? .


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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    I was referring to the hair bands honestly.
    Meh. Pick your Poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    82 grille is where it's at!
    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    I like how to 82 grille looks. Fits better with what you have going on.

    Any more pictures of the family truckster? I understand you did not get to see it again the next day..maybe you has some more from the first showing?
    Quote Originally Posted by slack View Post
    Another vote for the 82 grill from me. I put one of those on my Vic towards it's EOL.

    Also, that model is awesome! Did you paint it yourself? .
    The model is as it comes from Greenlight. It's a movie car (Terminator II), which happens to have rust very similar to my own. Lucky break.

    Moar truckster:



    Definitely seems like the 82 grille is staying on this header panel.
    Whether this header panel stays on the car, well, that's a different discussion. Pretty likely to stay though. This car has a 'thing' going on and it just works. Kinda.

    Pleased to announce the new fuel cap has totally resolved the headache-inducing fuel smell. In fact, the tank sort of pressurizes now and there's a small hiss sometimes when opening the cap...which the old cap has a warning about, but I never experienced.

    Something I noted earlier but forgot to mention I fixed: I had installed the head restraint cover backwards on the passenger seat. This is now corrected.

    We beat the odometer horse a couple years ago now, but a point in favour of this having not rolled over is that the driver seat is very firm and supportive, not saggy and sad as they tend to get with a lot of seat time.

    Yesterday, I put new delrin plugs in the passenger rear window motor. They turned to goo immediately after putting the car back on the road this year. Driver motor has a bad spot it likes to stop in, so that one's getting replaced shortly entirely.



    Tonight, I set about trying to resolve a suspension clunk/knock sound, mentioned recently in the thread. After a direction change (R/D or D/R) at next brake application, a loud metallic clank would sometimes happen. My theory became that this was the driver lower control arm shifting on its bolts due to inadequate torque. Inspection found they were indeed not tight, and are now torqued to 110lb-ft. Finding this spec in AllData took detective work as it isn't actually there to be found for a box, but it is for a 98, and since the front lower stuff is unchanged to 02, seemed applicable. Test drive shows noise seems to be resolved.

    While looking at the control arm stuff, I poked at the driver cat heat shield trying to wrap my head around the loud rattling noise it makes. The heat shield itself seemed not to be the offender, but rather, a large chunk of something cement-like in between the bottom shield and cat body. This turned out to probably be muffler putty that has broken apart into chunks. The cat has some...um...ventilation, which the previous owner fixed with the putty. It probably worked for a few minutes at least. Anyway, the rattle is now gone, which has dramatically improved the car's overall presence.






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    My phone plan incorporates some roaming features that are super useful given how often I'm in the US. It's an excellent plan but with a carrier that has some network shortcomings in Canada, but the roaming features are what drew me to them originally as well as keep me with them now. The phone I received free with 2-year commitment was a Galaxy A50, which is a reasonable midrange phone, but unfortunately it does not support VoLTE roaming, which is a feature now required for me to use roaming voice calls while in the US since the 3G shutdown. I certainly didn't want to spend any money to regain this feature of my existing service, so I set out to find the best phone I could at no expense (to be achieved by re-committing to my same phone plan for another 2 year term).

    It came down to the Galaxy A53 or Pixel 6a. I've really liked my work-issued Pixel 4 but find the screen is just a little bit too small for accurate typing (and as you can see, I like my typing, granted I do all of this on a computer generally); on the flipside, I've found the A50 screen has been a little bit too big for one-hand use, so the very slightly bigger A53 wouldn't be better. The Pixel 6a slots in nicely between them, and Pixel devices are known for decent cameras, which is why I've basically only taken car pics on the work phone for the last little while. You've all almost certainly noticed that despite being phone pics, my car pics have great clarity most of the time, and that's because Google knows how to spec out a phone camera. Anyway.

    Pixel 6a is now in hand at no additional cost. Great phone, I'm loving it, super fast and responsive, right size. Takes pics about equal to the Pixel 4, so neither an upgrade or downgrade in this respect. Testing its roaming voice functionality this weekend most likely.

    Some photo comparisons, lenses of devices cleaned before each:

    Friend's Huawei P30 (unsure if Lite or Pro but I'd have a hard time believing it's the Pro) https://i.imgur.com/SKovPxs.jpg

    Pixel 4 https://i.imgur.com/knDqO8y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3hyMRd6.jpg

    Pixel 6a https://i.imgur.com/8aKPXj0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M3Wezkp.jpg

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