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    Latest arrival at the local Picky Pull in Calgary and a friend did a pre-scout for me.
    Sent me these two pics; what are we looking at? In all my years I have never seen anything like it.

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    Looks like timed vacuum control solenoids to me for an earlier car. Is it a 1983 car by chance?

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    Definitely not factory, that's for sure.
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    It's an 85 GM. Missing the motor and is pretty hammered but has the turbine center caps floating around the interior.

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    I've seen these before on some sorta Ford something. Don't recall what. I feel like that's a 351 car and that's probably got a lot to do with it.

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    My '85 MGM has the MAP sensor placed where that mystery apparatus in on your pic. Weirdly enough it seems to have a different bracket. Also the diagnostic port is on the pass. side of the engine bay for some reason.

    EDIT: seems to be a 351-thing, something vacuum related, since there's no MAP in carb'd 351's. It is actually a factory thing.
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    Pretty sure those are vacuum switches used to trigger emissions stuff like the secondary air injection diverter and bypass valves, etc.


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    Confirmed, 351 thing.

    This is a Canadian propane 1990 P72 photographed in 2013:



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    My 82 had that mess. It was a 302 VV car. Maybe it's a VV thing if you all don't see it on 2150 cars?

    Not many pics of that car in my files but here's one.


    Per the EVTM, the three roundish things are zoned vacuum switches. Attached to them are thermactor air diverted and bypass solenoids.

    The red connector similar to the EEC-IV connector is the diagnostic port for the EEC-II. It's the same as the later one, just no separate connector. It didn't do anything on my car. Tried to run diagnosis with a code scanner on it but didn't get a response from it.

    One more photo while I am digging through photos: that car had a factory thick radiator.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    My 82 had that mess. It was a 302 VV car. Maybe it's a VV thing if you all don't see it on 2150 cars?
    Factory Canadian 2150 setup on my 83 302 does not have it.

    Seems the commonality is the VV, yes, since that '90 pictured would be some form of the VV. Not sure exactly what differs when they take propane, but I think it's still the VV at its heart.

    An 85 302 Ford or Mercury Panther would be a 2150 (or maybe that one Holley) in Canada, and fundamentally the same as my 83, so that particular 85 OP is asking about probably was 351 in order to have the carb that brings with it those vacuum switches.
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    My 79-85 LTD/MGMs with the 302/351 with the VV had that junk. It was used on Ca. smog vehicles for sure. Never adjust those knobs.

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    Well thats a lot of questions answered. I just wish the data plate was visible on the door. Completely faded away.
    Since that thing showed up I am looking at what else I can scrounge. Has dual exhaust so I might grab that. And are box bumpers interchangeable from sedan to wagon? Specifically the mounting plate (for lack of a better word).
    Mine are rusty and the only thing holding the bumper from falling off is the trailer hitch.

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    I think it's part 11 in this diagram.

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    Well upon further review it looks like that is a wagon specific part so the question is bumper interchange sedan to wagon.
    Little more research needed.
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    You can swap bumpers, but the rear would at least look weird because the wagon rear bumper is shaped different along the top (step to get in the rear). Front is the same, although some wagons may have an aluminum front bumper if I'm not mistaken.
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    Look under the hood on the core support or on the driver side at the cowl
    There may be the special order data plate with numbers/ letters.
    It may have be a “state” owned car. Some states tried those natural gas/propane cars.

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    Look under the hood on the core support or on the driver side at the cowl
    There may be the special order data plate with numbers/ letters.
    It may have be a “state” owned car. Some states tried those natural gas/propane cars.

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    My Canadian 87 CV has those. 351W.
    Is it for the VV? I always didn't want to mess with it. The VV carb is off and I have a rare Holley model 2300 1-684 carb that hooks up to the AOD, so wonder if I need that mess.



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    I actually would like a set of those switches. The original AC control switches on my Continental were that style, and I have no idea where to get replacements or even what the part numbers are. One was a vacuum switch that kept the AC compressor turned off when the engine wasn't running, the other is the boost cut-out switch that operated as a WOT cut-out switch. I faked in a generic vacuum switch to make that part work, have not been able to get a pressure switch that has a narrow enough on/off range to function. Don't care so much about that honestly, but I wouldn't mind having a proper looking vacuum switch to put back in the original bracket instead of the thing I have cobbled in there now.

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    Oh wow, factory huh? Jeesus, looks like something you buy at a parts store to help "fix" a vacuum problem you've been having.
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